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my name is Robert Salas contrary to what

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it says on the card I was not a

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lieutenant colonel in the Air Force I

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was in the Air Force active duty after I

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graduated from the Air Force Academy in

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1964 until 1971 and separated as a

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captain and uh March of

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1967. I was stationed at Malmstrom Air

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Force Base Montana

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as a missile launch officer

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Minuteman missiles

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on an early morning of March 16 1967. I

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got a call from my security guard

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primary security guard upstairs

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we had about

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six as I recall

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flight security Airmen upstairs I was

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downstairs 60 feet underground in a

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capsule

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monitoring and controlling 10 nuclear

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tipped Minuteman missiles

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I got a call at morning

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that they were seeing strange lights

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flying in the sky uh

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I disregarded that call I told him to

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I'm gonna call me when something more

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significant happened I got another call

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subsequent to that call

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and this time it was a more intense tone

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in the in the guards voice is very

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clearly very frightened

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um he said there was a uh a bright

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glowing red object hovering outside the

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front gate it was oval shaped he had all

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the other guards out there with their

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weapons drawn right after that call I

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woke up my commander who was on a rest

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period uh

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Fred meywald a retired Colonel now

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and told him about the phone calls as I

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was telling about the phone calls my

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weapons started going down

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one after the other they went into a

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no-go condition what we call no-go

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we lost somewhere between uh six and

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eight weapons that morning

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within minutes of having received that

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second phone call of a UFO hovering

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outside the front gate

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again that morning we were after

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reporting it to the command post we were

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informed that a similar very similar

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incident happened at Echo flight

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I was at Oscar flight

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they lost all 10 of their weapons and

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under similar circumstances very similar

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circumstances where UFOs were cited over

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the launch facilities

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they had they had maintenance Crews and

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security crews out there that had spent

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the night and they were reporting UFOs

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and the commander of that flight was

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Eric Carlson he's

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he also separated as a captain and the

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deputy Commander was a Walt feagle

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uh as an Lieutenant Colonel

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we have those witnesses that I just

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mentioned the names I just mentioned are

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have have spoken of this event before

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and they will back up this story

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we also have documentation

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that I received through foa requests

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from the Air Force

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outlining the echo flight incident and

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including in in that documentation a

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reference to UFOs

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we have a

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telexes uh covering this incident

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and in one telx it it says the fact that

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no apparent reason for the loss of 10

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missiles can be readily identified is

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cause for grave concern to this

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headquarters

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we've received we've got those telexes

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I've got about 12 Witnesses that'll

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verify parts of this story

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including um

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of a man who investigated the incident

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afterwards for the Air Force

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and you'll hear a little bit more about

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that within from the next Witness

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and also uh

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another guard that witnessed the UFO in

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that same time period and another

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officer who retired full colonel

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ancillary to that

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excuse me I've got the complete report

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on a Minot North Dakota incident that

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was Minot Air Force Base North Dakota

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which happened in August of 1966 very

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similar UFO cited over uh missile silos

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and also a UFO incident that was that

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was investigated by the Air Force

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immediately after our incident within a

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week I'm willing to testify to the truth

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of all these matters that I've spoken

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about this in front of Congress under

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oath the event the

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incident I guess I'd I call it happened

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on the morning of March 16 1967.

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I was on duty along with my commander

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Fred bywald we were both on duty at

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Oscar flight

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was part of the 490th Strategic missile

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Squadron there are five

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launch control facilities assigned to

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that particular Squadron he will leave

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Mike November Oscar okay here's echo

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echo launch control facility is located

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uh or some 30 miles north of Lewiston

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Oscar was another 30 or 40 miles east of

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Lewiston November just south of Lewiston

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we were at Oscar flight it was still

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dark out of course we're 60 feet

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underground and there's no way we can

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see out

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as I recall it was early in the morning

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and I got a I received a call from my

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top side

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uh security guard who's the

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light security controller I think we

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call them FSC

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and he said that he and some of the

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guards have been observing some strange

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lights flying

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around the site around the launch

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control facility

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and he said they were acting very

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unusual just flying around

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and I said well you mean UFO I think I

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use that word uh

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you mean like UFOs and you say well he

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said he couldn't

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he didn't know what they were but they

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were lights they were flying around and

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they were they weren't airplanes they

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weren't making any noise they were not

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helicopters they were making some very

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strange

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uh maneuvers

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and he couldn't explain them

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well I told him uh yeah you know I I

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just kind of shook my head and just said

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call me if anything more important that

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happens you know I basically and we just

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ended the conversation

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uh it wasn't more than uh well within it

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he calls back and this time he's very

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frightened I can tell by the tone of his

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voice he's he's very Shook Up

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and said sir there's a

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there's a glowing red object hovering

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rights outside the front gate

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and I'll show you what a what where the

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gate might be located but he's got a

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where he's located he's got a large

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picture window of the front gate and he

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said I'm looking at it right now it's a

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glowing red object I've got all the men

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out here with her weapons drawn uh and

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of course he was All Shook Up while he

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was telling me this he was very excited

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I didn't know what to make of it you

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know but he wanted me to give him

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instructions or orders tell him what to

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I think I said something like make sure

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the perimeter fence is secure

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and then and then he said right away he

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said I've got to go through one of the

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guards has become injured he hung up

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hung up

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I immediately went over to my commander

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who was taking a nap we have a little

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cut down there he's in a rest period

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and uh I was telling him about the

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telephone call we just received then and

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the time it seemed like every one of

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them shut down but later in

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in recalling this this incident with my

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commander mywald uh

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uh he said he he thought we only lost

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about maybe maybe seven or eight of

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these weapons went down into a no-go

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condition these weapons are Minuteman uh

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one missiles

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these were

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warhead missiles

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the weapons here

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so they started shutting down and

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immediately he gets up and we both start

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querying the uh

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the status board we've got the ability

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to query and and determine what the

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cause of the shutdowns were as I recall

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most of them were guidance and control

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and then he he started reporting to the

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command post

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and in the meantime I called upstairs to

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find out what the status was

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of this object

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try to and the guard said well the

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just left at high speed

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looked like and all he could say there

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oval shape but it was it was it was

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glowing red it was glowing a reddish

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orange around the object and it was

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generally oval shaped but he said it was

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very hard to distinguish any any

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well he said it was hovering right over

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the fence and to me it's that would have

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been within about I think 30 feet away

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the fence was maybe eight feet high

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just within a week of this week after

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where there were radar reports and quite

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a few more witnesses

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the Air Force did an extensive

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investigation of the entire incident and

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was not able to come up with a probable

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cause for the shutdowns

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and I've got quite a few Witnesses

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that'll testify to that we've got a

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couple of

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people who worked on the investigative

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and uh I've got correspondence from the

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fellow that actually organized the

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investigative team

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and there was no viable explanation for

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this

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each missile each missile missile is

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basically self-supporting the the

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commercial most of them are powered by

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commercial par but each missile has its

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connection between the the

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capsule and the missile sites themselves

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is what we call uh

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sin lines or their

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sensitive information Network sin

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lines that are basically buried cables

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these lines go to the missiles directly

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the the missiles are not connected to

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so having a fault at one side would not

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how many total went down

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six to eight that went down but they

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went down in Rapid succession which

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again is a extremely rare

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uh

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happening we rarely had more than one

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missile go down for any reason at all

292
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you know

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and this was very rare there was weather

294
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was ruled out like I said the extensive

295
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investigation was done weather was ruled

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out power surges were ruled out

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um

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there was only one

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possibility that was

300
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was looked at by one of the one of the

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Boeing Engineers that that did some

302
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tests in a laboratory

303
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and he thought that some kind of an

304
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electromagnetic force or field

305
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might have might have caused a signal to

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go but it would have had to go have gone

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through these buried cable

308
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to each of these missiles after I talked

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to my guard upstairs got the information

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about about the

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the other guard had been injured

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my commander was talking the command

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post the command post and they finished

314
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talking the command post and and he

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turned to me my commander and said

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the same thing occurred at Echo flight

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Echo flight is another Squadron

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about I'd say 50 60 miles away

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from our location

320
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but they had the same sort of thing

321
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happened they had UFOs that were

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hovering not not the launch control

323
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facility but the actual launch

324
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facilities where the missiles are

325
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actually located

326
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uh they had some maintenance and and

327
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security people out there at the time

328
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um and they were

329
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they were observed the UFOs were

330
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observed by these people out at those

331
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sites now they lost all 10 of their

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weapons

333
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all 10.

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um

335
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this is around the same time around the

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same it was the same morning

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so that morning we lost anywhere from

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you know 16 to 18

339
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at the same time UFOs were in the area

340
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and were and were observed

341
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by uh Airmen top side guard observed

342
00:15:48,470 --> 00:15:46,680
UFOs

343
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at the time we launched our missile

344
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systems

345
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it also talks about the security team

346
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that um

347
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I had sent out to check the security

348
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infractions

349
00:16:04,490 --> 00:16:01,079
and while on route back they lost radio

350
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contact and one of these men again I

351
00:16:07,730 --> 00:16:06,360
said was very upset about this whole

352
00:16:10,129 --> 00:16:07,740
incident and

353
00:16:12,230 --> 00:16:10,139
was unable to return

354
00:16:15,290 --> 00:16:12,240
he says I heard second hand that one was

355
00:16:17,870 --> 00:16:15,300
released from security team duties those

356
00:16:19,910 --> 00:16:17,880
missiles were down the entire day

357
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because

358
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we've got uh testimony from

359
00:16:31,310 --> 00:16:28,860
what Colonel Don Crawford who who

360
00:16:33,290 --> 00:16:31,320
relieved the crew at Echo flight and he

361
00:16:34,610 --> 00:16:33,300
was there while the missiles were being

362
00:16:36,949 --> 00:16:34,620
brought up

363
00:16:38,030 --> 00:16:36,959
to alert status he said it took the

364
00:16:41,090 --> 00:16:38,040
whole day

365
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so I'm assuming it took our missiles the

366
00:16:52,310 --> 00:16:50,449
uh so we got relieved I went upstairs

367
00:16:55,189 --> 00:16:52,320
first thing I did was look in the

368
00:16:57,970 --> 00:16:55,199
guard's eye and say hey will you telling

369
00:17:01,310 --> 00:16:57,980
me the truth about this

370
00:17:03,170 --> 00:17:01,320
this object he swore up and down he was

371
00:17:06,409 --> 00:17:03,180
telling the truth I believed you know

372
00:17:07,730 --> 00:17:06,419
for a couple of reasons I I knew he was

373
00:17:09,230 --> 00:17:07,740
frightened when he called me down here

374
00:17:10,549 --> 00:17:09,240
and then when I looked him in the eye

375
00:17:13,130 --> 00:17:10,559
and he

376
00:17:16,250 --> 00:17:13,140
you know he told me about the situation

377
00:17:19,309 --> 00:17:16,260
I certainly believed it and again I

378
00:17:21,409 --> 00:17:19,319
wrote up a report on this incident it

379
00:17:23,630 --> 00:17:21,419
was in my log and I turned it over when

380
00:17:26,390 --> 00:17:23,640
we got to the base I had to

381
00:17:27,890 --> 00:17:26,400
we had to report to our squadron

382
00:17:30,110 --> 00:17:27,900
commander right away

383
00:17:32,690 --> 00:17:30,120
and in that room with my squadron

384
00:17:36,890 --> 00:17:32,700
commander was a fellow from afosi we had

385
00:17:40,010 --> 00:17:36,900
a afosi uh Air Force officers special

386
00:17:41,870 --> 00:17:40,020
investigation on the base

387
00:17:43,490 --> 00:17:41,880
he was there in the office with the

388
00:17:47,450 --> 00:17:43,500
commander

389
00:17:52,730 --> 00:17:50,450
he wanted a quick briefing although it

390
00:17:54,890 --> 00:17:52,740
seemed to me he knew pretty much what

391
00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:54,900
had happened already but

392
00:17:59,590 --> 00:17:56,880
we gave him a quick briefing and then he

393
00:18:02,090 --> 00:17:59,600
asked us asked us both to sign a

394
00:18:04,490 --> 00:18:02,100
non-disclosure agreement

395
00:18:06,770 --> 00:18:04,500
saying this was classified information

396
00:18:09,490 --> 00:18:06,780
we were not to release this to anybody

397
00:18:12,350 --> 00:18:09,500
uh

398
00:18:14,510 --> 00:18:12,360
and that was it and we we couldn't talk

399
00:18:17,810 --> 00:18:14,520
he told us we could not talk about this

400
00:18:21,049 --> 00:18:17,820
to anyone including any of the

401
00:18:23,810 --> 00:18:21,059
any of the other crews are

402
00:18:26,810 --> 00:18:23,820
our spouses our family uh

403
00:18:29,390 --> 00:18:26,820
even amongst each other so

404
00:18:32,090 --> 00:18:29,400
we could not discuss this at all some

405
00:18:34,909 --> 00:18:32,100
weeks before my incident he received a

406
00:18:36,289 --> 00:18:34,919
report from an Airman on duty saying

407
00:18:38,630 --> 00:18:36,299
something was outside the perimeter

408
00:18:40,490 --> 00:18:38,640
fence he'd never seen before the object

409
00:18:42,590 --> 00:18:40,500
was lighted and seen to be watching the

410
00:18:47,090 --> 00:18:42,600
sided approached and repeated or

411
00:18:49,909 --> 00:18:47,100
retreated and something circled the site

412
00:18:53,150 --> 00:18:49,919
um he had this conversation they

413
00:18:55,250 --> 00:18:53,160
uh he told them and the the guard to go

414
00:18:56,510 --> 00:18:55,260
ahead and use his weapon but the but the

415
00:18:58,130 --> 00:18:56,520
guard said he didn't think it would do

416
00:19:01,130 --> 00:18:58,140
any good he tried to report it to the

417
00:19:03,289 --> 00:19:01,140
command post and the command post didn't

418
00:19:05,750 --> 00:19:03,299
want to receive the report

419
00:19:07,730 --> 00:19:05,760
that was the end of that that was Eric

420
00:19:09,710 --> 00:19:07,740
Malmstrom for

421
00:19:13,370 --> 00:19:09,720
another two years

422
00:19:16,250 --> 00:19:13,380
after that and uh in that time we were

423
00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:16,260
never given a debriefing on any of the

424
00:19:21,529 --> 00:19:17,760
incident

425
00:19:23,450 --> 00:19:21,539
or our own

426
00:19:27,169 --> 00:19:23,460
which is very unusual because we got

427
00:19:29,870 --> 00:19:27,179
briefed every morning on any anomalies

428
00:19:32,930 --> 00:19:29,880
that were going on with the equipment we

429
00:19:35,090 --> 00:19:32,940
got briefed and just we discussed these

430
00:19:37,130 --> 00:19:35,100
technical issues that were going on with

431
00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:37,140
the weapons and all that but we never

432
00:19:41,870 --> 00:19:39,600
heard anything else about these

433
00:19:43,789 --> 00:19:41,880
incidents and and these were major

434
00:19:45,529 --> 00:19:43,799
happenings they were major happenings

435
00:19:51,250 --> 00:19:45,539
I've got

436
00:19:55,570 --> 00:19:51,260
which we received under foia

437
00:19:59,630 --> 00:19:55,580
coming from Sac headquarters to uh

438
00:20:01,610 --> 00:19:59,640
Maelstrom and other bases saying right

439
00:20:03,370 --> 00:20:01,620
after the morning this happened saying

440
00:20:06,409 --> 00:20:03,380
that

441
00:20:08,930 --> 00:20:06,419
this incident was of extreme concern to

442
00:20:10,490 --> 00:20:08,940
SAC headquarters uh because they

443
00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:10,500
couldn't explain it nobody could explain

444
00:20:17,210 --> 00:20:12,480
what happened

445
00:20:19,010 --> 00:20:17,220
um but yet we never got debriefed and we

446
00:20:21,470 --> 00:20:19,020
were cleared for

447
00:20:23,510 --> 00:20:21,480
very high classification because these

448
00:20:25,130 --> 00:20:23,520
are nuclear weapons we're dealing with

449
00:20:31,370 --> 00:20:25,140
we had

450
00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:31,380
never debriefed on this at all

451
00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:33,840
and you see here

452
00:20:40,370 --> 00:20:37,679
there's a reference to a secret message

453
00:20:43,730 --> 00:20:40,380
on the same subject here this is the

454
00:20:45,890 --> 00:20:43,740
should be a copy an exact duplicate it

455
00:20:49,310 --> 00:20:45,900
should be an exact duplicate

456
00:20:51,710 --> 00:20:49,320
but as you see here under the subject

457
00:20:52,730 --> 00:20:51,720
here there was a reference but here it's

458
00:20:54,529 --> 00:20:52,740
missing

459
00:20:57,890 --> 00:20:54,539
the only other thing I might mention is

460
00:21:00,169 --> 00:20:57,900
we did get a security incursion alarms

461
00:21:02,690 --> 00:21:00,179
at those sites

462
00:21:05,090 --> 00:21:02,700
uh that went when the missile went down

463
00:21:07,970 --> 00:21:05,100
so which

464
00:21:10,610 --> 00:21:07,980
a little unusual well that is unusual

465
00:21:13,789 --> 00:21:10,620
because normally when a missile went

466
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:13,799
down for for something like guidance

467
00:21:22,750 --> 00:21:18,000
failure we wouldn't get uh security

468
00:21:28,370 --> 00:21:25,370
means there's a perimeter breach that

469
00:21:29,710 --> 00:21:28,380
some object crossed the fence or

470
00:21:32,470 --> 00:21:29,720
something

471
00:21:35,289 --> 00:21:32,480
broke broke the security

472
00:21:39,169 --> 00:21:35,299
alarm system that we had

473
00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:39,179
on the perimeter of the launch facility

474
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:42,000
so I did send out go I sent guards to a

475
00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:48,529
to investigate that

476
00:21:52,250 --> 00:21:50,400
well the only description I got a

477
00:21:54,649 --> 00:21:52,260
movement was like I said the first

478
00:21:57,669 --> 00:21:54,659
telephone call where they had erratic

479
00:22:00,710 --> 00:21:57,679
movement of these lights flying around

480
00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:00,720
above the launch control facility

481
00:22:05,870 --> 00:22:03,360
other than that the guard upstairs said

482
00:22:08,210 --> 00:22:05,880
that the object that was hovering

483
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:08,220
took off at great speed I mean he just

484
00:22:11,450 --> 00:22:09,360
just

485
00:22:12,710 --> 00:22:11,460
left rapidly

486
00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:12,720
quickly

487
00:22:19,310 --> 00:22:15,360
the reason I think this story is really

488
00:22:24,409 --> 00:22:19,320
significant is because going back to um

489
00:22:26,990 --> 00:22:24,419
uh this August August of 1966 at Minot

490
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:27,000
Air Force Base

491
00:22:31,130 --> 00:22:29,760
a very similar thing happened at one of

492
00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:31,140
the launch facility launch control

493
00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:33,840
facilities at Minot Air Force Base they

494
00:22:38,450 --> 00:22:35,520
had the same kind of weapon system we

495
00:22:43,570 --> 00:22:38,460
had man one missiles

496
00:22:46,250 --> 00:22:43,580
uh uh this was observed on radar

497
00:22:48,529 --> 00:22:46,260
uh there was some communication failure

498
00:22:51,049 --> 00:22:48,539
the object was observed over the launch

499
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:51,059
control facility

500
00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:54,480
so uh and that happened in August 1966

501
00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:57,720
and that's documented well documented

502
00:23:00,590 --> 00:22:59,760
that incident

503
00:23:02,990 --> 00:23:00,600
um

504
00:23:05,870 --> 00:23:03,000
about a week prior to my incident of

505
00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:05,880
March of 67.

506
00:23:10,730 --> 00:23:07,200
uh

507
00:23:14,029 --> 00:23:10,740
I've got a record of it from

508
00:23:16,010 --> 00:23:14,039
well uh the crew Commander I got a call

509
00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:16,020
from one of his security guards who was

510
00:23:19,789 --> 00:23:17,520
out roaming

511
00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:19,799
looking at the launch facilities and saw

512
00:23:24,590 --> 00:23:23,280
an object very similar to what I just

513
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:24,600
described

514
00:23:29,930 --> 00:23:27,120
over launch launch facility

515
00:23:31,909 --> 00:23:29,940
uh he reported in

516
00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:31,919
the commander reported to command post

517
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:33,120
command post said they weren't

518
00:23:38,210 --> 00:23:35,760
interested in that report they just

519
00:23:41,450 --> 00:23:38,220
didn't even want to take the report

520
00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:41,460
and that happened a week before about a

521
00:23:47,090 --> 00:23:43,679
week before ours happened

522
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:47,100
I bought a week to 10 days after our

523
00:23:51,710 --> 00:23:50,159
incident there's a very well documented

524
00:23:53,330 --> 00:23:51,720
incident that happened in Malmstrom Air

525
00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:53,340
Force Base

526
00:23:58,130 --> 00:23:54,960
and in this case

527
00:24:00,590 --> 00:23:58,140
well a near-malstrom Air Force Base and

528
00:24:02,270 --> 00:24:00,600
uh and again this was another one that

529
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:02,280
was tracked by radar

530
00:24:07,870 --> 00:24:05,760
it was observed at close range

531
00:24:10,970 --> 00:24:07,880
relatively close range by a truck driver

532
00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:10,980
and highway patrolman

533
00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:13,200
uh and there's a there's extensive

534
00:24:18,169 --> 00:24:16,320
report on that and the Air Force did an

535
00:24:20,210 --> 00:24:18,179
investigation and there's an extensive

536
00:24:21,950 --> 00:24:20,220
report on the Air Force investigation of

537
00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:21,960
this uh

538
00:24:27,370 --> 00:24:24,720
of the sighting this UFO sighting

539
00:24:31,370 --> 00:24:27,380
because it flew

540
00:24:33,649 --> 00:24:31,380
around the base near the base and uh

541
00:24:36,890 --> 00:24:33,659
very very close to the base like I said

542
00:24:38,930 --> 00:24:36,900
it was seen by a truck driver and and uh

543
00:24:40,909 --> 00:24:38,940
highway patrolman and

544
00:24:42,289 --> 00:24:40,919
this incident was reported back to

545
00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:42,299
headquarters there's correspondence

546
00:24:45,970 --> 00:24:43,919
going back and forth and I've got some

547
00:24:50,450 --> 00:24:45,980
of that

548
00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:50,460
so this is a whole series of things that

549
00:24:55,850 --> 00:24:52,320
happened

550
00:24:58,610 --> 00:24:55,860
having to do with with the same kind of

551
00:25:01,549 --> 00:24:58,620
weapon system Minuteman missile

552
00:25:03,310 --> 00:25:01,559
the reports that were made to me by my

553
00:25:05,690 --> 00:25:03,320
guards were

554
00:25:07,250 --> 00:25:05,700
official reports

555
00:25:13,610 --> 00:25:07,260
these were not

556
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:13,620
meant to be uh anything but official

557
00:25:16,970 --> 00:25:15,840
reports because we're dealing with

558
00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:16,980
weapons

559
00:25:27,890 --> 00:25:26,269
they were very professional these guards

560
00:25:30,649 --> 00:25:27,900
and they were not about to be joking

561
00:25:33,169 --> 00:25:30,659
about weapons being when we had weapons

562
00:25:35,810 --> 00:25:33,179
down about what they were seeing so

563
00:25:37,250 --> 00:25:35,820
these were not rumors they were official

564
00:25:40,970 --> 00:25:37,260
reports

565
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:40,980
so if if they were recanted for any

566
00:25:43,930 --> 00:25:42,240
reason

567
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:43,940
these these men should have been

568
00:25:49,549 --> 00:25:46,320
court-martialed for giving false reports

569
00:25:52,190 --> 00:25:49,559
or false information and during a very

570
00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:52,200
sensitive uh incident

571
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:55,440
and none of that happened uh

572
00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:57,840
none of that happened these these were

573
00:26:02,990 --> 00:26:00,080
not rumors there's nothing about rumors

574
00:26:06,769 --> 00:26:03,000
the primary Witnesses it'll verify this

575
00:26:08,930 --> 00:26:06,779
incident are are the echo crew the

576
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commander and Deputy commander and my

577
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own Commander Fred meywalt Bob Kaminsky

578
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was

579
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headed up the organization team they

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organized the investigative team to look

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at

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got it in writing

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um

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that

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at some point he was told by his boss

586
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that the Air Force had said

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stop the investigation uh do no more on

588
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this and in addition

589
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do not write a final report

590
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again this is very unusual especially

591
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knew of the fact

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that Sac headquarters was stating and

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this is sink Sac was stating that this

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was of extreme importance

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to find out exactly what happened here

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and yet the head of the investigative

597
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team was told that a stop work order was

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on the way from oama oama as the air

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material commanded Ogden Utah to stop

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any further effort on this project

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we stopped we were also told that we

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were not to submit the final engineering

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report and not write a final report

604
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I heard that uh many of the guards that

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had reported these incidents were were

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sent off and it to Vietnam as a matter

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of fact I know for a fact this I can't

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attest to that one of the guards I sent

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out to one of the launch facilities

610
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uh again observed an object and came

611
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back and was too Shook Up

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it was very shaken by the experience and

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was taken off

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uh guard Duty from then on he

615
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he was he was set somewhere else he he

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was just too shaken by the experience

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and to this day they had never forgotten